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Reader on Antidepressants Hears Voices

Reader Letter, 5/6/05

Hello Lisa and Ryan,

I came upon your website yesterday, ordered your book, and told my therapist last night that I'm not sure I will be coming to  her anymore.  The truth is that I've never felt at ease with all of the psychological diagnoses and fixes out there. 

I am a Christian - yet one who has become very depressed.  I was diagnosed in January with bi-polar disorder, which I also have felt uneasy about.  I was prescribed Lamictal (for bipolar) and wellbutrin (for depression), and have been taking them since January.  For the past 10 years, however, I have been on and off antidepressant medication.  Although uncomfortable with the psychology world at large, I began to accept that I must have these disorders, and that I must take medication for the rest of my life.  They do seem to be effective on some levels, yet on others I feel like I'm losing (or have lost) who I am, who God created me to be.  Very alarming, yet too much for me to process at this point! 

I do have a question about withdrawal from each of these medications...Lamictal and Wellbutrin ...is it okay to just stop immediately, or should it be a slower process?

My other question, which is more the reason I'm writing to you, which I'm not even sure how to phrase...but, here it is ... do you believe that demons can actually get into our thoughts and cause these crazy thoughts out of nowhere?  Lately, I have been having terrible thoughts, towards God, towards the Holy Spirit...not my own thoughts, as I do love God, and am seeking Him.  These are almost like words yelling out to God in my head...swear words...things I in no way feel in my heart...yet when I think how I don't want to have those words in my head anymore, they start coming out.  I am praying, and have fasted also about this.  I feel crazy to ask you both this, as you do not even know me...but I feel crazier having the thoughts.  If you have any ideas on this, it would be very helpful to me to know...also, please pray for me.

Also, I read your story about your near-death experience...and, it really touched my heart.  I am so glad that you are alive to tell your story, and of God's greatness...and for sharing honestly about the pain and uncertainty of what God is teaching you or working thru it....I will pray for you. 

Thanks for listening....thanks for your website, and your convictions to go against the grain!...

Sincerely,

WM, Internet

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Dear WM,

Thank you for writing us.

As you've probably already read in our book, disorders are not scientifically proven, but instead are invented by the psychology industry to widen their market for their therapy and drug services.

Behaviors that psychology labels as abnormal (e.g. bipolar) are many times just our sinful nature. What psychology calls bipolar, the Bible would call a work of the flesh, where our emotions control us and we serve our own selfish desires (e.g. spending irresponsibility and other forms of self-gratification, overly self-focused periods of depression, etc.).

Psychology has their solutions (therapy and drugs), while the Bible has its solutions (repentance, self-denial, trust and obedience to God). Psychology would claim we can't control our behavior, while the Bible says we can, through the power of the Holy Spirit as we humbly submit to Him.

Don't let the psych industry convince you that you have a disorder that you can't control, and that only the psych industry can fix. As a Christian, you have the power to overcome your flesh, and look to the Lord for help. Jesus broke the power of sin over you at the cross.

We believe that psych drugs only open us up to more demonic influence. You are not crazy - the voices you are hearing are probably demonic in nature (esp. if the voices are going against God and His truth). Christians cannot be demon-possessed (from the inside), but they can be demon-oppressed (from the outside in). Mind-altering drugs will only allow demon oppression and influence to increase. Use of any mind-altering drug - illegal or legal - is condemned by Scripture, which refers to drug use as "sorcercy" (see Gal. 5:19-21). God knows the damage to our bodies and souls that mind-altering drugs can inflict.

The best thing to do is renew your mind in the Scriptures, and recognize the voices for what they are - demonic in nature. Don't condemn yourself for these thoughts, since you are not responsible for them. Your only responsibility is to resist them, and draw near to God, and the devil will flee (James 4:7-8).

We would also recommend, under a doctor's supervision, to VERY SLOWLY withdraw from the psych drugs you are taking. This is a dangerous exercise, but worth your soul and your peace of mind. We recommend obtaining the book "Your Drug May Be Your Problem" by Dr. Peter Breggin (www.breggin.com) for how to safely withdraw from these drugs.

We are not surprised by your statement that you feel like you've lost who you are, and who God created you to be. The psychiatric drugs CAUSE chemical imbalances in your brain, and so your brain has to compensate. This results in personality changes and sometimes permanent brain damage. But God can and does do miracles, and He can restore what the enemy has stolen.

Thank you for your prayers for Lisa. We appreciate them! We have also prayed for you.

Yours in Christ,

Ryan and Lisa Bazler

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Dear Ryan and Lisa,

Thank you so much for your response and your concern and prayers… I really thank you so much for taking a stance on all of this. 

I m realizing as I read excerpts from your book how  Satan has crept in thru the backdoor with Psychology as the name of the door we enter.  I remember having a lot of reservations about all of this  after I had become a baptized believer in the Lord....however, as time went by, and I still suffered with depression, many well intentioned Christians sent me in the direction of psychology. 

I can tell you that the day I read your website,( which was the same evening I went to the therapist, and also the last time), my misgivings about psychology were spelled out...and it was very freeing.  I do realize that I can be manic or depressed, but there are definitely things well in my own control that I can do to help myself.  At the core of it is a reliance on God, which the psychology mentality was slowly stealing from me.  Since that day, I feel I am returning to my senses.

 I particularly want to thank you both for praying for me about those crazy thoughts in my head I told you about.  Actually, the moment I emailed you asking for your prayers, the thoughts really lessened.  I believe it was just bringing it into the light.  I was afraid that you guys would think I was some lunatic...but I actually cared more about having your prayers, and hoped for some insight from you.  When I received your email it was of great encouragement to me...that I was right in thinking it was demons.

Thanks again, both of you.  I don't know you personally, but feel so grateful for both of you reaching out to people thru convictions God has put on your heart.  I wanted you to know it has been of great impact to me.  I will keep praying for you.  Thanks.

WM, Internet

 

 

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Note: The mission of this ministry is to inform mental sufferers and those from whom they seek help of the physical, mental and spiritual dangers of mental health disorders and treatments, and to encourage them to pursue a drug-free, psychology-free, Christ-centered life.  Visitors to this web site taking psychotropic drugs who wish to discontinue use are strongly advised to consult a qualified physician for assistance and supervision before starting the discontinuation process. This ministry and web site provides information to help visitors make the most informed decisions about their mental health, and should not replace the advice of a medical doctor.