Pastor Rick Joyner on Obama Healthcare Plan

 

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:55:03 -0500

Subject: URGENT Word from Rick Joyner

 

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JUST OUT FROM RICK JOYNER......... HE IS CLASSIFYING IT AS 'URGENT' FOR
CHRISTIANS TO READ AND UNDERSTAND.....'EUTHANASIA' IS BUILT IN TO THE
PROPOSED HEALTH CARE PLAN ....that is, the gov't determining what if
any, care would be given to the elderly...........You sense his
'disbelief' as he is reading and communicating what has been hidden in
this bill. pls. send on to everyone. the documentation is below.

By Rick Joyner

         When I read the brief on what was contained in the National
Health Care bill that is now being presented before Congress, I could
not believe I was reading something that was actually being considered
in the United States of America . This is not about money or government
mismanagement—this is about something far more diabolical than that. As
incomprehensible as it may seem, this is about euthanasia, the power to
determine who lives or dies in America . Hitler and Stalin would have
loved to have had a means such as this for dispatching the millions
they killed—it would have made their job much easier, and probably
given them the ability to kill many more than they did. THIS BILL IS
THAT SINISTER. This is not a joke—this is actually the nature of what
is being proposed in the National Health Care legislation, and it is
the obvious reason why the Obama Administration wants to ram it through
Congress before anyone gets a chance to read it.

         I have resolved to always be as generous as I can toward
people with opposing views of my own. I do this because I believe it is
the mandate of I Corinthians 13 to always believe the best about
people, rather than the worst. I know this opens me up to be misled by
some, but I consider that a small price to pay to not become cynical. I
also do it because I think it is wise to always try and understand the
position of my opponents—to be open to consider their positions and not
be too rigid or inflexible to change because we all “see in part,” and
“know in part.” Because of this, I have been chided for being too
generous by giving those I do challenge grace by believing that they
had not thought through the consequences of their proposals, or had
other good intentioned reasons for doing what they were doing. However,
after reading the brief on this health care bill, I don’t see how
anyone could not see that there is profound evil and evil intent at
work here. I just do not see any way to be any more generous with those
who proposed this bill than that. It is that bad.

         This bill is obviously designed to put the authority to
determine who lives and dies in America into the hands of government
bureaucrats. As outrageous as that seems, it is true—you can read it
yourself. It even gives the government access to all of your accounts,
and the authority to make withdrawals. I know this is hard to believe,
but you can read it yourself.

Do you want a government bureaucrat to determine if your mother or
father can receive treatment, even in life and death cases? Would you
want a government bureaucrat to determine if your child, or you, could
receive treatment, even when it means life or death? Think of the best
experience that you ever had working with a government bureaucrat, and
then think about them having the power to make a potentially life or
death choice for your child, your parents, or for you. This is actually
what is being proposed.

Add to that chilling thought the fact that this bureaucrat does not
have to know one thing about medicine to be in that position. In fact,
this bill proposes letting the government define what quality health
care is and impose that definition on health care workers. Nowhere does
it even specify what training, expertise, or qualifications this
all-powerful government bureaucrat has to have to be placed in the
position to make such ultimate decisions for the health, well-being,
and even the lives of Americans.

Am I being too hard on bureaucrats, or the Obama Administration’s
intentions? Certainly there are many bureaucrats who are sincere and
true public servants. I agree that such are deserving of our
appreciation and respect. The modern world could not exist without
them. Think of the most noble and conscientious there are. What kind of
position would we be putting them in to have to go to work every day
and decide who is going to get treatment, who is going to have to go on
a waiting list and for how long, and who are they going to have to just let die?

Who could live with such a job? There are many who could, who would
just see it as paperwork, and those are the ones who would be in that
position because the truly noble ones could not endure it. Hitler found
many who could dispatch thousands each day, and then go home and enjoy
their own families at night. There are people with that kind of moral
disconnect. These jobs will be filled and by the very ones we would
never want in such positions.

It is beyond anything I thought I would ever see in my lifetime that
such a bill could ever be seriously considered in the U.S. Congress.
This bill has the potential for totalitarian control to be imposed on
America to a degree that Hitler and Stalin could not have even
imagined. With the technology available now, totalitarian control can
very quickly be imposed to a degree far beyond what was attained by
either the Nazis or the Communists, and this bill has provisions in it
for just that. It mandates the sharing of all of your personal
information, from just about every conceivable source, with the new
health care bureaucracy being set up to implement this national health
care system. The penalties for trying to escape this web are serious.
This would actually make America into a national concentration camp,
and we can be sure that ultimately it will be a national death camp.
You do not have to take my word for it—read
it for yourself. Below I will include a brief on this bill so that you can look it up, chapter
and verse.

I am a pastor and a watchman, and I therefore have a mandate to watch
out for the people, and to sound the alarm when I see a threat. I have
never seen one like this before. Even so, I have prayed for restraint
and calm as I address this, and do not want to exaggerate anything. In
spite of this terrible evil that is manifesting itself through the
Obama Administration, I am resolved to pray for our government leaders,
and I try to pray for the President every day. My sincere hope is for a
spiritual awakening for him and for those in every government position,
and for the Lord to give them wisdom and help for the most difficult
task they have. However, with all due respect (and I mean this), what
is coming out of the Obama Administration is evil, more evil than
anything I thought I would ever see in America . It is time to call it
what it is.

In the early 1990s, myself and a few other prophetic friends were all
shown separately, but at the same general time, that the same evil that
gained access to Germany in the 1930s was going to seek access to
America. I have shared this often since then, and have made many trips
to Germany to seek to understand what happened there. Col. Eugene Bird
became one of my dearest friends, and I spent many days with him
listening to what he had learned about this, which was considerable.
Col. Bird was the U.S. Commandant of the Spandau Prison that held the
Nazi war criminals, and ultimately became the one many considered to be
the foremost authority on Nazi Germany. Bird’s insight into how evil
can gain entry into the human soul and into governments was remarkable,
but I always had trouble seeing a connection that would allow what
happened there to actually happen in America . Bird often chastised me
for this, warning that it could easily happen in America (Col. Bird
lived most of his life in Germany , where he became loved and esteemed
by that nation, but he remained a patriotic American to the end). Bird
often explained how the evil spirit of death that took over Germany
gained entry through its health care system. Now it is easy to see what
he was talking about in what is being proposed by the Obama
Administration.

In Germany , the National Socialists (Nazis) gradually desensitized the
nation to death beginning with abortion. Then they quietly, seemingly
with the most noble intentions, rounded up the retarded and insane,
claiming that the state could take much better care of them, but no one
ever saw or heard from them again. Then they did the same with the
elderly. As word slipped out that they were being euthanized, it was
explained that war made it necessary to eliminate all of the “useless
eaters” so that the troops could be fed, as well as those who worked
for the war machine. By that time, the grip of control was too strong
for anyone to protest or they would also be sent to the camps. Life
became cheaper and cheaper, people became more and more depraved, and
millions were slaughtered in the death camps.

America is following a parallel course. If Hitler had a tool such as
the health care bill that is being proposed by Congress, along with the
technology of control now available, it would have made his task much
easier and more effective, and probably resulted in many millions more
having been easily murdered.

I have had Presidents, candidates, senators, and congressmen and
congresswomen from both parties tell me they have read and appreciated
my writings. I have maintained for many years that an eagle needs both
a left wing and a right wing to fly, and believe that there are
excellent men and women of true conviction in both parties. I realize
that by writing with this tenor, I risk being considered an extremist,
and maybe risk many relationships, but I cannot be concerned about
that. With such an extreme evil threatening our country, I would have a
difficult time standing before the Lord on that great judgment day if I
did not speak up as boldly, as clearly, and as loudly as I can. Call me
an alarmist and I will agree with you—I am going to do my best to sound
the alarm against evil in every way that I can, and I don’t think I
have ever seen anything with the potential for evil like this national
health care bill.

I pray that senators and congressmen from both parties who have courage
and conviction will stand up against this terrible impending holocaust
and stop this bill. I expect that it will be hard for many who read and
understand what this Democratic Administration has proposed not to
refer to the Democratic Party as the Death Party from now on, but let’s
wait and see how the Democrats in Congress respond to this before
condemning them, too. This bill is criminal—it opens the door for a
crime against humanity on a level that could easily surpass what
happened in the last century. We must hold accountable all who have
written, proposed, and sided with this bill—and determine that with all
the resources we are given, they will never be elected again for
anything.

I pray that every Christian will wake up and rise up to take their
stand against what is happening in our country now. If we do, we can
stop this. If we don’t, we will have to stand before the Judge having
let this happen on our watch. We can expect persecution and even death
for standing against such a bold and obvious attack of the spirit of
death, but no Christian should fear death, and no Christian will want
to live in the world that is now taking shape if we do not become the

salt and light we are called to be.

We are in need of the courage and resolve of Gandalf in the  Lord of
the Rings, who stood before the huge and terrible Balrog demon and
declared—“YOU SHALL NOT PASS!” The demon was stopped, and even though
it was able to grab and drag Gandalf down with it, Gandalf returned
with a new level of authority. It does not matter what the consequences
are for standing for truth, as Christians we must stand because it is
our basic duty. As the first apostles demonstrated, to be persecuted
and to suffer shame for our God and His truth is one of the greatest
honors. However, we must do it for more than honor—we must also do it
for our children and their children.

Last night on Fox News, a former Clinton Administration council to the
President stated courageously that this bill was not just about money,
it was about euthanasia. The money part does not make any sense at all,
but now that the real evil that is driving this can be clearly seen, we
can understand that the Administration really does not care about
saving money or providing health care for everyone; rather it is about
control. There is already talk about this being about saving money by
being able to euthanize the baby boomers so they will not have to be
paid social security, or weigh down the health care system with their
needs.

I’m not ready to go that far, but that is obviously why the
Florida congressman declared that this bill was a death sentence for
the elderly. That is true.

The only commandment with a promise that it will go well with us, and
that we may live long, is the commandment to honor our fathers and
mothers. This commandment is found in both the Old and New Testaments
(see Ephesians 6:2-3). Killing them when they can no longer be
productive, as Hitler and Stalin resolved to do, is the most
dishonorable thing we could ever do, and we can be sure will bring the
opposite to the blessing promised. As you read the bill, and see how
excessively long they stay on the point of being able to determine what
and if any care is given to the elderly, you will see it really is
chilling. It is obvious this is a primary purpose of those who wrote
this bill. I know this sounds far-fetched, and I would not have
believed it myself a few day s ago, but just read it for yourself.

The following is a brief outline of this bill put together by
Mat Staver of the Freedom Foundation and Liberty Counsel (contact info
is at the end). The comments by the brief are Mat’s, except where I
have noted my own by putting them in italics. The bold is also mine.

After reading, please do not wait to contact your representatives to
protest this. If you don’t get through, keep calling, send emails, but
do not stop until you know your voice has been heard.

Obama Health Care Plan Details

HR 3200 currently under consideration in the House of Representatives

 
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit the books of ALL
EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides
what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your
benefits for you. You have no choice!

Pg 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US
citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill – Gov’t will have real-time access to individual’s
finances & a National ID Health care card will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your banks
accts for electronic funds transfer.

Pg 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their
families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring priv HC plans
under Govt control.

Pg 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private
Health Care plans in the Exchange

Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The
Govt will ration your Healthcare!

Pg 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic appropriate
services.

Example - Translation for illegal aliens.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN &
Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan

Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members -
Your Health Care WILL be rationed

Pg 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individual will be
automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Govt on price fixing. No
“judicial review” against Govt Monopoly.

Pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what
you can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public
opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees
AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer w/ payroll 400k & above who does not
prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

Pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt provide
public opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

 

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY
individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Govt will be
taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes.
(Americans will pay) .

Pg 195 Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL
Americans financial and personal records.

Pg 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax” Yes, it says that.

 

 Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will
reduce physician services for Medicaid.  Seniors, low income, poor
affected.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, it does not matter what specialty
you have, you’ll all be paid the same.

Pg 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, prof judg, etc.
Literally value of humans.

Pg 265 Sec 1131 Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC
industries.

Pg 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven
wheelchairs.

Pg 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals – Cancer
patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems
preventable readmissions. (Incentives for hospital to not treat and
release.)

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that
results in a readmission-Govt will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs.
what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating
hospitals cannot expand.

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT
community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates established of outcome based
measures. HC the
way they want. Rationing.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage
Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory
Committee. HC by phone/Internet?

Pg 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance [Death] Care Planning Consult.
Think Senior Citizens end of life.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills,
durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

Pg 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Gov’t provides approved list of end
of life resources, guiding you in death.

Pg 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life.
The Gov’t has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will be used
frequently as patients health deteriorates.

Pg 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may incl an ORDER for end
of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an
end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you
will have at end of life
(NOTE FROM RJ: The above really does give the government the authority
to determine who lives and dies, and when. A government bureaucrat
really will be making this decision for you and your loved ones.)

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello,
ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Pg 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to
a community-based org. Like ACORN?

Pg 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. They
will insert Government into your marriage.  Pg 494-498 Govt will cover
Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs

PG 502 Sec 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research
Established. – Hello Big Brother – Literally.

Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Gov’t will build registries and data networks from
YOUR electronic med records.

Pg 503 lines 21-25 Gov’t may secure data directly from any depart or
agency of the US including your data.

Pg 504 Lines 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published &
unpublished (that means public & your private info)

PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow
for public access of data.

PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from HC consumer reps
– Can you say unions & ACORN?

PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More
taxes for ALL.

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Gov’t will define what Quality means in HC. Since
when does Gov’t know about quality?

Pg 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the Quality Standards, Govt will transfer
$$ from to other Govt Trust Funds. More Taxes.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes &
functional status of patients.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to profile you including
race, age, gender, place of residence, etc

Pg 628 Sec 1443 Gov’t will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making
input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those Multi-stake holder groups incl. Unions &
groups like ACORN deciding HC quality.

Pg 632 Lines 14-25 The Gov’t may implement any “Quality measure” of
HC Services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality
Measures” for Physician Services & Dialysis Services.

Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Gov’t wants to
shine sunlight on Docs but not Govt.

Pg 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections –
Looks okay.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Gov’t will tell you where your
residency will be, thus where you’ll live.

Pg 676-686 Gov’t will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency
programs, incl. teaching hospitals.

Pg 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. (You
mean like the Gov’t with an $18 million website?)

PGs 701-704 Sec 1619 If your part of HC plan isn’t in Govt HC Exchange
but you qualify for Fed aid, no payment.

PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secr gets complaints (ACORN) on HC provider or
supplier, Gov’t can do background check.

PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny HC providers/
suppliers admittance into HC Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out
of business.

Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable med equip or home med
services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Sec 1639 Gov’t MANDATES Doctors must have face to face with
patient to certify patient for Home Health Svcs.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same Gov’t certifications will apply to
Medicaid & CHIP (your kids)

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Gov’t reserves rt to apply face to face
certification for patient to ANY other HC service.

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforce. proposes the Secretary-HHS will
give Atty General access to ALL data.

PG 740-757 Gov’t sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (Thats
your tax dollars people)

Pg 757-762 Fed gov’t will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate
Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)

Pg 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services
without regard to national origin

Pg 765 Sec 1711 Gov’t will require Preventative Services including
vaccines. (Choice?)

Pg 768 Sec 1713 Gov’t – Nurse Home Visitation Svcs (Hello union
paybacks)

Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Svcs include-economic self-sufficiency,
employ adv, school-readiness.

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services - “increasing birth intervals
between pregnancies.” Govt ABORTIONS anyone

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Fed Gov’t mandates eligibility for State Family
Planning Services. Abortion & State Sovereign.

Pg 789-797 Gov’t will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs
brought to market. Bye innovation.

Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The
government will now control Drs’ education.

PG 801 Sec 1751 The Govt will decide which Health care conditions will
be paid. Say RATION!

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc req. to register.
Gov’t takes over private payment sys.

Pg 820-824 Sec 1801 Govt will identify individ. ineligible for
subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Govt Sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research
Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 829-833 Gov’t will impose a fee on ALL private health ins. plans
incl. self insured to pay for Trust Fund!

PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by Gov’t for Trust Fund shall be treated as
if they were taxes.

Pg 838-840 Gov’t will design & implement Home Visitation Program for
families with young kids & families expect kids.

PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Prog. includes Gov’t coming into your
house & telling you how to parent!!!

Pg 859 Gov’t will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of
$88,800,000,000. Yes that’s Billion.

Pg 865 The Gov’t will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health
Service Corps.

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where Drs. perform mandatory
HC for 2yrs for part loan repayment.

PG 876-892 The govt takes over the education of our Med students and Drs.

PG 898 The Govt will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to
ensure supply of public health prof.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of civilian
employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 898 The Public health workforce corps shall consist of officers of
Regular & Reserve Corps of Service.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned
Regular & Reserve Officers. HC Draft?

PG 910 The Govt will develop, build & run Public Health Training
Centers.

PG 913-914 Govt starts a HC affirmative action program thru guise of
diversity scholarships.

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Govt MANDDATES Cultural & linguistic competency
training for HC professionals.

Pg 932 The Govt will estab Preventative & Wellness Trust fund- initial
cost of $30,800,000,000-Billion.

PG 935 21-22 Govt will identify specific goals & objectives for
prevention & wellness activities. Control YOU!!

PG 936 Govt will develop “Healthy People & National Public Health
Perform.  Standards” Tell me what to eat?

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More Gov’t? Offices of Surgeon General -Public
Health Svc, Minority Health, Women’s Health

PG 950- 980 BIG GOV’T core pub health infrastructure including
workforce capacity, lab systems; health info sys, etc

PG 993 Gov’t will establish school based health clinics. Your kids
won’t have a chance.

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school
environment. Say GOVT Brainwash!

PG 1001 The Govt will establish a National Medical Device Registry.
Will you be tracked?

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and declare with all of the courageous souls who are sounding the alarm
and let us say to the bill—
 
“YOU SHALL NOT PASS. ”
 
 

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